Market America Scam
December 16, 2011 | Posted by Market America Scam Market America Unfranchise Scam
When I say “Market America” what’s the first thing that comes to mind? For most, the phrase following Market America is SCAM, complaints, or sucks. In fact, Google is well aware that Market America is a scam too. If you start typing in the phrase “Market America,” the number 1 suggestion is Market America SCAM. There is a reason why Google suggests Market America Scam. SCAM is suggested because it is the phrase most frequently searched in conjunction with Market America.
That so many people search the exact phrase Market America Scam is a testament to the fact that the Market America UnFranchise business “opportunity” is a scam and sucks compared to other MLM opportunities, which is why there are so many complaints. Instead of Market America Unfranchise, it is has become Market America Scam. In fact, did you know that the exact phrase “Market America Scam” is searched in Goolge 5400 times a month, and “Market America Unfranchise” is searched a mere 720 times per month. That means Market America is branded as a scam 7.5 times more than it is associated with Unfranchise. Market America and Scam are virtually synonymous. I am a website marketer/ SEO writer for hire and have much knowledge and experience optimizing websites for search engines.
The reason for my complaints and thinking “Market America scam,” is because Market America Unfranchise pays very poorly for your efforts, and in times of a recession, and even when the economy is good, people do NOT want to pay an arm and a leg for vitamins, antioxidants, and energy supplements they can just as easily buy at the dollar store. Do not waste your time with the Market America cult. Market America is a scam and waste of money. I say Market America scam because you pay for nonsensical training to sell their over priced products for a very poor commission. Sure, some people have made some money with Market America, but they should start asking themselves how much money they would have made in a company that offers far better commission rates and marketable products.
Market America has often been referred to as a scam. There are numerous reasons why many people believe market america is a scam. This article will explore these reasons from a website perspective. Consider that people who join market america do not actually own the website www.MarketAmerica.Com. Rather, market america essentially loans their distributors a replicated portion of their website with a reallllllllyyyyyy long and confusing URL. If people simply go to marketamerica.com, you will earn absolutely nothing from the sales generated. So all the talk and selling and putting the word out about MA is useless and a waste of time if people do not go to your specific URL, for example www.marketamerica.com/Your-Specific-URL-that-Noone-Wants-to-Type-in-because-it-is-a-lot-easier-to-just-go-to-the-corporate-version
When you pay money, oftentimes as much as $1-$5 for pay-per-click advertising to market “your” products, people click the ad, decide if they want to buy, and likely come back at a later time. However, when they return, they are not going to type in your long and unmemorable website portal. Why would they? They don’t care about your commission, and probably do not even know that you earn commission at market america.
So where do they wind up? You guessed it, marketamerica.com corporate site. Based on your ads, your word-of-mouth, and your time, energy and efforts, you earn $0 commission for promoting OPC 3 isotonix, or whatever you decided to market. There are literally 100s of thousands of market america distributors, and they are all selling the same exact products. Why would I spend even an extra second to type in your MA URL? How does that help me?
Here’s the unadulterated, no BS lowdown and one of the reasons why there are so many Market America Complaints:
Out of every 100 people to get into a MLM program:
– 98 will lose money. Some will lose a LOT of money.
– 1 will break even.
– 1 will actually make more than they invested. (But almost always no where near the touted possible returns.)
Once an MLM plan hits the web and starts a campaign blitz, the opportunities to be that 1 person out of a 100 are almost nil.
Are you sure this is the route you truly want to take?
I’ve written for a good number of MLM sites.
The ONLY ones who made any money were the ones who created the MLM offer in the 1st place.
Notwithstanding how great the copy is (and I write exceptionally great copy) the market is so saturated with hopefuls wanting to cash in on the offer, no matter how hard they try, they never meet their goals.
If you are determined to throw your money down it will become a bottomless pit.
Market America Unfranchise in all probability won’t make you a dime – but at least you’ll know you’ve given it the old college try.
The web is a fantastic place to make money for inexperienced entrepreneurs, but only for those who have a under-utilized market niche or those helping others to achieve their financial success. I’m afraid polo shirts really don’t fall into a saleable category. (Check e-Bay to see what others are selling them for. If you can beat their prices, then by all means sell on e-bay. I’ll be an inexpensive way to get your feet wet with online commerce.)
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@ Champ / mssi2
Welcome back, Champ / mssi2! What brings you back? WOW, I see you’re up to no good. AGAIN. I can only assume you’re addicted to this site’s brand of hard-knocks schooling. So without further adieu, let the schooling begin!
Mr. Wilson has crushed you using your own numbers. It’s really no different from how I made short work of you using a VERY lenient definition of Failure Rates. Let’s recap, shall we?
Using your numbers, and please, no more weaseling please, $600,000,000 in revenue divided by 80,000 Distributors who actually work = $7500 per Distributor per year. To be VERY fair to you, mssi2…whoops I mean Champ, let’s say 50% is paid out in commissions.
Wonderful. This means the average income per Distributor (who actually work) is $3750/year. And let’s not forget that the real number of Distributors is 180,000, which would result in a far more dismal average income figure.
$3750/year = $312.50/month. Oh, but wait! Let’s not forget about all the Elizabeth Webbers and even lowly Jesse Yangs and Olivia Lis who clear $18k – $25k month! Let’s not forget those people you work with who clear 250k in sales per year, not including team sales! And please help me to cite all the other million dollar per year earners which you so egregiously weaseled your way out of before. Anyone else you’d like to add to the list? Like I said, the more you brag, the lower the income figures for everyone else. Pick your poison.
mssi2 / Champ, unless you can correct this simple math, you’re owned. Come on, mssi2, present us with the 2011 Income Disclosure Statement with facts and figures to the contrary. Since your figures come directly from MA’s corporate database (LMAO!).
You won’t do it. You can’t do it. You never could. Got the guts? (pfft) Prove us wrong.
Um…. huh? mssi2? Facts and figures to the contrary of what? Whatever you are trying to say makes no sense. There are some really weird people on here.
@ Champ = mssi2
Huh? What? What are you talking about? Dude, you’re weird. Who are you? What planet are you from? You’re weird, bro.
Do you really think that’s going to work here, mssi2? Sorry, but your intentional oblviousness will not work here. It may work in the world of MLM where most are missing a few screws, but not here where everyone’s sane and can clearly tell you’re stalling.
Answer the question, mssi2 / Champ. Mr. Wilson and I are using your $600,000,000 revenue figure and 80,000 Distributor figure. Can you deny that the maximum average income figure is a pathetic and paltry $7500/year? Can you deny that if 50%, a far more realistic yet generous figure, of this revenue were paid out in commissions, this paltry $7500/year figure would be reduced to a measly $3750?
You realize that everytime you use numbers in your arguments you get royally screwed, right? LMAO!
I dont know what your problem is or why you keep calling me mssi2. But your questions and comments make absolutely no sense.. We get paid retail profit, PLUS a commission from the group sales of 15% and up. If you build a sales team you make money on top of the retail profit. If you dont you wont. If you CANT you have no business attempting it. Its pretty simple.
@ Champ = mssi2
Dude, the jig’s up. Why do you pretend not to be mssi2 when it’s blatantly obvious you are? I think you should check into a mental rehab clinic, stat! I can only assume you integrate the same practice of denial into your MA business. Pathetic to say the very least.
So it seems you’re never going to address the grade kindergarten math question both Mr. Wilson and I have posed for you. That’s fine. This way everyone can look back and marvel at your gargantuan mathematical stupidity, paralleled only by your supreme mastery of dodgy and evasive stalling tactics. I can only hope your uplines and downlines read your postings here to find out that you single-handedly self-owned yourself and your company in writing, proving indelibly that Market America suck balls.
The reason that I’m on this site is because I have seen first hand the negative impact that Market America has on most of the distributors’ lives. And, it doesn’t only affect the distributors. It affects their friends and family. I have seen too many marriages fall apart, too many unpaid loans that have killed friendships, and worst of all, too many children whose parents are caught up in MA and who can’t afford the basic luxuries of childhood.
Like I’ve said in the past, my connection to MA is through Jesse Yang. Not only does he owe me thousands, but he owes all of our friends thousands as well. To be honest, I’ve already accepted that he will never repay this loan. Fortunately, my financial situation is stable enough where this won’t affect me too much. On the other hand, we have other friends who have worked their butts off their entire lives and who really need to make the most out of every penny they earn. They have bills to pay, families to support. And it utterly disgusts me that Jesse can so cold-heartedly flat out refuse to repay them.
I have seen too many people who had financial stability and who had good careers get caught up with MA. I know that at the end of the day, everybody makes his or her own decisions. But my problem is that these MA recruiters use blatant lies and make up convenient numbers in order to recruit new members. People like Mssi2 and Champ are perfect examples. Out of curiosity, I have sat in on a Jesse Yang MA presentation, and I couldn’t believe the garbage that was coming out of his mouth. The sad and unfortunate thing is, there are too many people who are too tempted and easily pursuaded by these heartless snakes. Perhaps they lack education and business training, perhaps they lack some common sense, or perhaps they are just desperate to make a better living for themselves and their families.
A little bit about my background… I went through years of medical school and am currently a physician. I work 3 days a week (which is why I have some free time to even go on this site), and I make a decent living. My lifestyle might not be as fancy or glorious as these MA guys claim their lives are, but I have a nice balance between my work and my family time. Jesse Yang has even insulted me, saying that my profession is not rewarding and that anyone can be a doctor. He has made fun of my car, asking me why I still drive the same car after 5 years. I have nothing to be ashamed of. I have a great family, I have a house that is completely paid off, and I have absolutely no debt whatsoever. More importantly, I can look at myself in the mirror each morning and be happy with what I see. As for Jesse, he still rents a little apartment, he is now leasing another new BMW (basically paying rent on a car), and I couldn’t even guess how much debt he is in right now. But more importantly, he has lost all the respect of his family and friends. And you cannot put a price on that.
If I can warn just one person about this MA trap, then the time I’ve spent posting on this site would have been worth it.
Why do I call myself Mr. Wilson? Because that’s a nickname I’ve had for years and Jesse will know exactly who this is if he ever sees this site. I have nothing to hide.
OK, Mr Wilson. I can see why you have a problem with ONE person. I can see why you are so passionate about this. But for you or anyone else to say a company sucks because of one or a few people is not quite fair. Sucks compared to what? Traditionally, what are the average persons chances of bringing in a residual income of over say, even $20,000 per year? Actors? Musicians? investments? What percentage of the population have $400,000 in the bank to draw $20K a year in interest?..
I can say the chances of an MA rep doing it are somewhere between 15 and 20 percent without spending their whole lives to get there..If it was a fit for everyone, then everyone would be doing it.. No one posed any “math” questions that I could not or did not answer, I cant help it if you dont like the answers, so again, sucks compared to what?
@ mssi2 / Champ
Everyone knows that you CAN answer the grade kindergarten math question Mr. Wilson and I have posed. With a little research I’m sure you can find out how long division works. The point is, you WON’T answer. That’s because by doing so you would screw yourself over YET AGAIN, proving WITH YOUR OWN WORDS once and for all that MA is a total sham.
Your quibbling efforts are all in vain. Whether the audience is a prospective Distributor, or an existing one, anyone who reads this thread will learn to stay far far away from Market Scamerica.
By the way, your residual income comment is completely inaccurate. Residual income implies you don’t have to work for it. But have you noticed that all the Olivia Lis and Jesse Yangs are still working their butts off? That’s b/c Market Scamerica, and all other MLMs (yes, MA is an MLM. I know you’ll say otherwise but it is), are in a constant state of collapse, so constant recruitment is required just to MAINTAIN your lowly income levels.
Remember that the number of MA Representatives has stayed relatively flat at around 180,000 reps for at least the last 3 years since I’ve been keeping an eye on it. (It probably stayed flat like this for longer). Since the number of Distributors hasn’t been changing much within those past 3 years, it implies that during these 3 years, the rate at which you recruit new suckers EQUALS the rate at which they quit. It’s a HUGE REVOLVING DOOR! LMAO! mssi2 / Champ you are a real piece of work!
You have not even asked me a question that I havn’t answered yet you go off on some tangent that is totally out of context and makes no sense to me. How many times can I say I don’t know what your talking about or what your asking. How come you didnt answer MY question? The company has NEVER had a down quarter of growth since the day it opened its doors. All you know how to do is say its a sham but anyone with a little business sense can see its far from what you describe.
I work with people that have not “recruited” a sole in 18 years and their income has only gone up. So its as residual as it gets for the average person and certainly 100′s of times more lucrative and permanent than ANY other company in the network marketing world.
So again MA sucks compared to what? Your the one not answering the questions!
The only thing people will learn from this is to stay away from people like you or stay away from people like ME that are dumb enough to argue with a brick wall.
After reading back a little bit I see you posed some questions that were answered quite clearly so i doubt anything that I add to that would change what you believe. There are people like you all over the place. You have not said anything that I have not heard before. Its really quite silly to argue with someone that no matter what I say or document, you will still believe what you believe.
I think someone else asked you to do this but PLEASE, Search the internet and report back to us the number of distributors that “say” they were with the company and “say” they did the work yet still had a bad experience and didnt make any money. Please report that number back to us.. PLEASE!! If its the scam you say it is Im sure you can find plenty. Im curious to see the number you come up with.
On second thought, this is a complete waste of time. Your never going to agree with anything I say and anyone with a brain or any common business sense is not going to listen to you or base a decision to work with a company on “blogs” or “forums” anyway, At least I hope not.. Its all kinda pointless I doubt ill even be back
@ Champ / mssi2
LMAO, you are the master of denial! I get it, mssi2. You bank on the hopes that visitors of this site will be too lazy to check on whether you’ve made good on your answers or not. Pathetic.
Champ / mssi2, please stop with your rhetoric about doubting you’ll ever return to this site. We all know you will, especially after I spice it up a bit for you.
Hey Champ, ever hear of a fellow Market Scamerican, Joyce Jenkins? Oh, I think you know her VERY WELL! Afterall, she IS mssi2′s wife. Let’s get everyone better acquainted, shall we?
h t t p : / / w w w . meetup . com / Philadelphia-Internet-Marketing / members / 9032402 /
JUST REMOVE THE SPACES, AND YOU’RE GOOD TO GO! EVERYONE, PLEASE MEET MSSI2′S WIFE!!!
Now, Champ, since you claim not to be mssi2, you should have absolutely no problem with me sharing EVEN MORE about Joyce Jenkins with everyone, such as her telephone number, and perhaps even her MLM site! Yikes, she sure has some VERY BITTER former Market Scamerican downlines. What’s up with that? No matter. Since Champ has nothing to do with mssi2, why should he care, right?
P.S. You still haven’t answered my questions about average income levels at Market Scamerica. Care to try again? MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Still dont know who you are talking about. But let it be an example of what a classless Dirtbag you are for posting peoples personal information.
If you ever ask me a direct question I would give you a direct answer. Again, I have no idea what you are asking. What about average income levels?
Lets find the information to Mr Wilsons medical practice and post it up here, along with pictures and contact information to his family. Lets make up some BS about them and try to pass it off as truth… How bout we do that.
Dude you dont like thae answers you were given because they didnt co-incide with your beliefs. I handled it quite diplomatically but you had to go and make it personal. I dont Know who misi2 is so its pointless. There is a new point made though about the temper tantrum you just threw because you got called on your Bulshit.. Grow up dude.
So whos in denial? How many distributors have had a bad experience? 20, 30 out of “180,000″?
Maybe I should track you down and post pictures and phone numbers for people in your family because you didnt answer my question.
If you can keep the personal information out of it I would love to see this “mlm site” with all of the “bitter downlines” this person has..
The fact is, you cant because they dont exist. You are making it up for your own entertainment value.
ha ha,, I still cant believe you brought someones wife into this.. ha ha, even if the information is correct it just shows what a complete little pussy you are.. ha ha. What a little BITCH
@ Champ / mssi2
Ah, and therein lies the proof! You ARE mssi2! Just look at your squirm! 4 posts, back to back??? Clearly Mrs. Jenkins’ personal information matters to you, Robert. As for the link I posted, that’s not personal information, that’s a business site specifically intended for meetups. She should be thrilled to have all this new viewership! LMAO! Afterall, as the saying goes, “Any publicity is good publicity.”
Robert, Robert, Robert. You still continue to pretend you’re not mssi2. Pathetic, especially when your rant over your last 4 back-to-back posts SCREAMS desperation. Denial is something every MLMer must know well, but dude you are the Duke of Denial! I especially love the part where you say,
“I handled it quite diplomatically but you had to go and make it personal.” – Champ
This shows you’re taking this release of information personally. This is just a golden nugget! It just begs the question, “Why take it personal, Champ? It’s just some random person, right?” LMAO!
How many Distributors have had a bad experience, you ask? Glad you did. Here is my answer:
EVERY single Distributor I personally know (approx. 75 Distributors) has had a bad experience with MA and ALL are suffering financially and/or socially. Most of them have lost the respect of their family and friends, and all of them are too embarassed to admit they’ve been completely duped. Now, Robert, don’t go on saying something lame like you usually do, such as “AH HA! See, that’s 75 out of 180,000!”
Nope, it’s 75 out of 75 Distirbutors I personally know. That’s 100 percent….. ROFL!
You would love it if I posted the MLM site or the names of countless disgruntled downlines here for your own confirmation, but I’m not going to do that. This will only help you with your operations, and the last thing I need to do is to help perpetuate a product-based pyramid scheme such as Market Scamerica. But I have a question for you, though, which you’ve been dodging ever since you’ve joined this site. Here it is:
What is the average income of a Market America Distributor, knowing that MA revenues were $600,000,000 and the number of Distributors = 180,000. To be fair, let’s say 50% of sales revenue is paid back out in commissions.
Let the dodging begin! LMFAO!
Wow.. this is really getting heated huh.
I was actually curious to see this site that Nathan posted, but the link didn’t work. Looks like the profile has been deleted. That’s awfully sketchy…
But Champ, to say that there are only 20 to 30 out of 180,000 distributors who have had bad experiences with MA is a bit foolish. How about all the distributors who have already left MA? Did they leave because they were so happy with the company and the “business plan”?
I think in earlier comments, mssi2 said something like “if there are so many people who dislike MA, why are there only 50-100 out of 200,000 distributors who post negatively about MA on the internet?” Well, those probably weren’t his exact words, but I’m just paraphrasing. My response was, if there are only 50-100 people who post negative comments, then are there 199,000 people who are posting positive comments online about MA? He didn’t respond to that.
But whatever, numbers don’t mean anything. You just see what you want to see. I see from first hand experience, through people I know who have been in MA or are still in MA, that the success rate is very very low and that most people are unhappy.
Sorry, as for information regarding my medical practice and stuff like that, there really isn’t much I can do for you. I don’t specialize in mental disorders.
I think that this question we have posed for you is pretty clear. Could you please explain how a company with only $600,000,000 in revenue claim to pay out all these thousands of dollars every month to so many distributors? There are supposed to be 180,000 distributors. With all these Directors making $18,000-25,000/month, the numbers don’t add up at all. And then, there are all the coordinators and professional coordinators and other people who make like $4000-8000/month. And then, at the top of the pyramid, the guys who claim to make like $120,000/month. I know you will just say something like “people get paid based on the sales of the entire team and their downlines and blah blah”.. but once again, the numbers do not add up.
@ Mr. Wilson
Mr. Wilson, here’s how you can look her up if you act quickly enough. Google:
“Joyce Jenkins” meetup
Don’t forget the quotation marks. From here a link will appear that reads:
Joyce Jenkins – Philadelphia Region Internet Marketing
Click on “Cached” on the bottom right of that Google Link. Her page will appear! If you have problems, send me your email. I have a screen capture of it. Of course, you could always look up Joyce Jenkins on FB:
h t t p : / / www . facebook . com / joyce . jenkins.501
or maybe you’d like to meet mssi2 himself. I’m sure Champ won’t mind since he’s pointed out on numerous occassions I’ve got the wrong man:
h t t p : / / w w w . facebook . com / RobJenkins3600
Enjoy!
Champ is not MSSI2. My rant was because I think your an idiot. Im sure those people have nothing to be afraid of by being on here other than aligning themselves with Morons (myself included for getting sucked in). Nor is it bad publicity because from what I read, they discounted you on every thing you threw at them. You just didnt like the answers so you started acting like an immature brat and kept changing the subject. Once they answered one thing you threw something else out there. It was very clear who was being evasive and it wasnt Him/Her/Them.
The career manual says the average earnings of a UFO are $53,858.04 That was a few years ago. The number has gone up to over $70,000 but I cant seem to find it. It doesnt really matter when the average in Network marketing as a whole is less than $400 per year.
44.89% make 0 to $1000 on the commissions not including retail profit.
55.11% make $1000 and up. ANY MLM you look at will have that 55% number at about 1% and the 0 to $1000 at about 99%.
The ones that have reported their activities and have proven that are are actually putting the efforts in are well over $170K per year. This stat is just one what I have heard and wouldnt know how to document so take it for what you believe its worth.
I agree there is allot of scams out there but obviously this isnt one of them.
I dont know what else I can say. The company has brought in over 4.5 Billion and has paid out over 2.5 billion. Look up the companies financial reports its all there, they are not private. I cant post them here either. If I could upload a file I would.
There are 100 times more positive comments about the company than negative ones. Your only looking for the negative.
You see a low success rate? Im sure you do, thats what you are looking for. When you do see someone successful you just say they are lying or something. Again Success rate compared to what? If you show me a network marketing/direct sales company that has a higher success rate than MA, Ill quit and join it. The fact is you wont find one that comes within even 50% im sure.
“You would love it if I posted the MLM site or the names of countless disgruntled downlines here for your own confirmation, but I’m not going to do that. “.. NO you wont post that because it doesnt exist. Just like your 75 friends.
And what kind of Medical Doctor hangs out on message boards anyway?
Thats fine, most level headed people would agree to disagree and leave it at that. I think that is what I will do here. Im sure youll say that you won the arguement or “owned” me and that fine.. The numbers speak for themselves. I dont need to go any further.. Perhaps you should Call the BBB and see if you can get their A+ rating domn to where you think it should be. Im sorry you had a bad experience if infact you did. This is just a waste of my time and yours.. YOU WIN!!
Not sure about you guys, but I find it really amusing that neither mssi2 nor Champ know the difference between “your” and “you’re”…
mssi2 says:
January 18, 2012 at 10:32 pm
“Your a funny dude and im sure your opinions make sense to you and perhaps even to others with no business experience or meaningful success of their own.”
“If your going to go off on a rant about a company you should at least qualify yourself to do so..”
Champ says:
May 10, 2012 at 5:18 pm
“Now your just being a jerk.”
“I know your trying to compare this to an MLM and thats where you are getting hung up.”
What a coincidence, huh?
Thanks for the links, Nathan!
I’m sorry, but I might have to stop posting comments on this site. I’m really scared for my safety. That Rob Jenkins guy looks really tough. Must be all the OPC he takes.
@ Mr. Wilson
Hey, no problem, doc. Want to know how I knew all along that Champ = mssi2? Just compare the way they write. They use EXACTLY the same set of words to defend / explain MA. You know, shit like, “82% retention rate and never a down quarter.” ROFL it’s hilarious. Want to know an even better way? Notice how he often ends sentences with exactly two periods, like so.. No one else has this nasty habit. Most people use one period. Then again, some use three… But NO ONE except this Champion Douchebag uses two! Using two periods is like going half way. Quite fitting for a guy with such half-ass grammar spewing endless statistical half-truths.
You can look up mssi2 on w w w . scam . com. Check out this link:
h t t p : / / w w w . scam . com / showthread . php?t=141608&page=2
Notice how mssi2 often ends things with two periods? This is why if you don’t want to be identified on the net, you need proper grammar and punctuation. Chalk another one up for the educated and observant!
Also, notice how as soon as I exposed Joyce Jenkins’ meetup page it was immediately removed? That’s a pretty good indicator Champ = mssi2. If Champ wasn’t mssi2, Joyce’s meetup page would still be up and running.
And yet (CAN YOU BELIEVE IT???), Champ STILL claims not to be mssi2. ROFL!!!! He is the Duke of Denial!
There’s no need to be afraid of R. Jenkins, whoops no last names…I mean Robert J. (LOL) Jesse should be your main concern, since he’s close by and holds a 2nd degree black belt in TKD. In any case, you could always deny that any of your posts were written by you. You’re in luck, because the Duke of Denial is right here to help you with that.
@ Champ / mssi2
Lovely. Now we have Joyce here to join us! No more double periods until the very last paragraph when Robert took over. But just to set the record straight, just because Joyce is using the same alias, doesn’t mean you can claim that Champ isn’t mssi2. Sharing the Champ account at this moment doesn’t change anything. Champ STILL equals mssi2. LMAO!
As for your MLM site, you’re so certain I can’t produce your site, Joyce, but I can. The MLM site is nothing more than your MA portal, which writes your name at the top of the page as the assigned MA/SHOP Consultant. As for the 75 Distributors I cited, not friends as you’ve written, they are all very real and very pissed. To give you an idea as to how easy it was to meet them, I simply walked into a Motives Party to pay my respects to a friend, and there they ALL were. I even got conned into attending a UBP. I knew what was coming, but you’ve gotta do what you’ve gotta do.
Now, let me address your $53,858.04 figure for average UFO income. For the purpose of completeness, let’s fill everyone else in on the context behind this figure using official MA marketing and correspondence literature, and I quote:
“Prior to creating one universal UFO qualification and re-qualification criteria, the UFO Program consisted of Bronze, Silver and Gold levels. The average annual earnings indicated below were derived from commissions earned between May 2000 and April 2001 by all Distributors implementing the UFO Program from its inception in May 1999.
Based on an independent study conducted by KML Associates, State College, Pa., the following are results of Market America’s UFO (UnFranchise Owner) program with respect to average annual earnings:
Average Annual Earnings
Bronze:
$31,557.36
Silver:
$55,696.56
Gold:
$231,783.96
Average Weighted Annual
Earnings of all UFOs: $53,858.04 ”
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Now let’s break it down for everyone to see. We’ve got 3 tiers of bronze, silver and gold. First, it’s important to point out that in order to qualify for any of these tiers, certain stringent performance criteria had to be met. In other words, these statistics, whether for Bronze, Silver or Gold, DO NOT REPRESENT THE TRUE AVERAGE. Second, keep in mind that these stats don’t include anyone with less than a year’s experience, of which the vast majority lie. YET ANOTHER REASON why using this figure is misrepresentation. Third, like you said, this was a while ago (over a decade). Back then the market was not as saturated, so it was easier. Afterall, constant recruitment results in an inevitable cannibalization of personal business markets (Preferred Customers). Fourth, you say that weighted average yield number has increased beyond 70K, but this is not true. That’s because the medal-themed tiered UFO Program no longer exists!!! The Universal UFO Qualification Program is all that remains. If you’d like to calculate the average income for yourself, take the total commissions paid for any given year (2008′s figure is $108 million) and divide it by the number of MA reps (about 180,000). The resulting figure, BY DEFINITION, will give you the average income across all reps. I’d post that resulting figure here, but I thought it would best for you to do it for us, since Champ/mssi2, your husband, refuses to do so and instead substitutes it with evasive and dodgy tactics. If you wish, do what mssi2 did and redo the same calculation considering only the 80,000 reps that actually “put the work into it.” Either way, the figures are paltry.
Next, Joyce, your statement about other MLMs bearing less fruit above $1000 may be correct, but can be misleading as well. What makes MA different from other MLMs is that its compensation plan is THE MOST SOCIALISTIC I’ve ever seen. In fact, many would take it one step further and say it’s borderline communism. (On this note, I find it ironic that your maiden name is Marx)
So for this group above $1000 in commissions earned, MA only achieves a more even distribution of commissions, not more commissions paid out per capita. So while your
statistic attests to this even distribution, doesn’t mean MA is better than any other MLM.
Lastly, Champ / mssi2, regarding your point about the A+ rating on BBB, Amway also has an A+ rating. Weeeee!!!! Come on, you and I know the BBB has no teeth and no real means of enforcement whatsoever.
In short, what I see is yet MORE half-truths, the quintessential essence of selling the MLM dream.
It is not the critic who counts, nor the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows great enthusiasms, great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
@ Joe Nobody
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Obesity and Poor Eating Habits
Management strategies that address the ever rising problem of obesity seem to have been concentrating on overeating as the singular cause of obesity. Experts are now factoring in eating out rightly bad stuff to your health and obesity. Like all situations we find ourselves in as humans, our consequent actions can either improve our predicaments or result in outright worsening of the same. This article outlines several bad habits that worsen obese people’s condition:
Most people suffering from obesity are constantly planning and thinking about their next meal. They will also have imaginations of the kind of satisfaction they will get from certain foods.
Application of eating for the sake of it principle. This is a serious problem as it leads to overfeeding. It involves gulping all that is served irrespective of whether hungry or not. Okay, everybody is in agreement that food wastage is not an exactly noble idea but one should only consume what is enough for the body and avoiding mopping anything edible in sight.
Not taking time to complete the chewing process. In actual fact, this is the first step in the digestion process and the efficiency with which your body completes this process successfully depends on chewing.
Paying too much attention to food in a restaurant leads to obese people not being able to pass the temptation of having another extra bugger or pizza. This is because the minds conjures up images of an unsatisfied you having some yummy pizza and all.
Not regulating the portion size. It is common knowledge that a bigger portion will automatically mean more food consumption and more weight gain as a result. Obese people should learn to control their portion sizes of both food and drinks. This will ensure that the body does not get to convert excess calories into fats.
Food should be consumed in a slow and methodical manner as opposed to gobbling everything in sight. This is a bad eating habit that is directly linked to obesity.
Skipping breakfast is another problem associated with obese individuals. This is a very bad precedent as it means that you don’t have the tenacity to avoid binge eating. Consequent meals are prone to consist of big portions.
Benefits of Energy Drinks
Energy deficiency is a common problem and it has a negative impact on people’s lives. The general feeling of tiredness that people display has become a growing cause for concern. With issues such as demanding jobs, obesity and unhealthy diets, the problem of fatigue is on the rise. As a result, energy boosters have become a necessary part of people’s lives. They offer the energy boost that many people desperately need. Energy drinks are products that cater for energy needs. Various people use energy drinks to improve their levels of energy.
Ordinary food may not always be an adequate source of energy and this is why there will always be a need for energy drinks. They nourish the body and give it the extra energy it craves to function optimally. People who suffer from fatigue are well aware of how the problem interferes with their daily routines. An energy drink helps to combat the problem. When energy levels are raised, the level of mental alertness also improves. Quality energy drinks are beneficial because they contain nutrients and minerals that improve general wellbeing.
The energy boost received from energy drinks helps people do much more than they would be able to do without the drinks. Concerns have been raised about the side effects of these drinks but when they are taken in recommended amounts, there is usually no problem. Improved performance in various aspects of life is guaranteed with the recommended intake of energy drinks. They also ease stress and many athletes rely on them for optimal performance.
Natural energy drinks contain the vitamins that people need to boost their immunity. A functioning immune system is essential for people who want to perform at their peak. After establishing that the drink is safe, there is nothing to worry about in regards to adverse side effects. Just like with any product, it is important to consume the drinks within the recommended limit. It might be tempting to take excessive amounts because people believe that large amounts offer even more energy. While this may be the case, the effect of the drink may be compromised if it is abused.
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Benefits of Energy Drinks
Energy deficiency is a common problem and it has a negative impact on people’s lives. The general feeling of tiredness that people display has become a growing cause for concern. With issues such as demanding jobs, obesity and unhealthy diets, the problem of fatigue is on the rise. As a result, energy boosters have become a necessary part of people’s lives. They offer the energy boost that many people desperately need. Energy drinks are products that cater for energy needs. Various people use energy drinks to improve their levels of energy.
Ordinary food may not always be an adequate source of energy and this is why there will always be a need for energy drinks. They nourish the body and give it the extra energy it craves to function optimally. People who suffer from fatigue are well aware of how the problem interferes with their daily routines. An energy drink helps to combat the problem. When energy levels are raised, the level of mental alertness also improves. Quality energy drinks are beneficial because they contain nutrients and minerals that improve general wellbeing.
The energy boost received from energy drinks helps people do much more than they would be able to do without the drinks. Concerns have been raised about the side effects of these drinks but when they are taken in recommended amounts, there is usually no problem. Improved performance in various aspects of life is guaranteed with the recommended intake of energy drinks. They also ease stress and many athletes rely on them for optimal performance.
Natural energy drinks contain the vitamins that people need to boost their immunity. A functioning immune system is essential for people who want to perform at their peak. After establishing that the drink is safe, there is nothing to worry about in regards to adverse side effects. Just like with any product, it is important to consume the drinks within the recommended limit. It might be tempting to take excessive amounts because people believe that large amounts offer even more energy. While this may be the case, the effect of the drink may be compromised if it is abused.
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